1 More posts you may like r/Iota Join 4 yr. ago Import light wallet seed in trinity wallet? And another thing: I requested my data and was assured that I would get an email ;soon, and received nothing. I like Strava for how it handles power data, and I prefer the layout of the app. You can make heatmaps for free on my website (link to jonathanokeeffe.com). Why do some companies go out of their way to make it harder to be a customer? Once I bought the edge 530, I got onto Garmin Connect. When I clicked manage your apple subscription in the My Account area it said I will renew August 3rd at $79.99. Strava also has some paid-for tiers which can offer insights and guides training. I was wondering if it was possible to assign runs that have synced from Garmin to Strava to a specific training day, like the Nike Running App. Must be a bug: > Your subscription was canceled and will expire on 22 February 2022. Once downloaded, make sure the app has synced over to your watch. We compare the sleep scores of the watch with those of the Withings Sleep Analyzer. If they took much out of it then theyd only be left with paid subs. I have used Trainer Road on off for years, cancelling when it gets to summer etc. Ive always been charged in USD for Strava (and Zwift, and TrainerRoad). Or I confused? Maybe a US company that doent have any offices in en EU country can get away with it though. Bye bye Strava!People, vote with your wallets!! The $99 seen earlier for the annual sub? The annual subscription fee hit on 5 December 2022 at the $59.99 rate. Does this mean they will charge differently based on the device you signed up with? But its hard to support the you have to spend money to save money because its like digging for daylight. If I were you, Id pay some attention to GC. When costs and plans are adjusted, were always working to improve your experience and invest in the value delivered to you on a daily basis. So can we VPN to Spain and set it up cheaply that way? I agree that I dont understand these different prices for the European countries. What about the three different types of memberships they had a few years back? Meanwhile, for my wife, were just going to cancel it. Sync your device with the Garmin Connect app on your smartphone. Strava Galaxy Watch 4 app showing unsynced activities. If a company wants to officialy do business in that market it has to comply with that markets regulations. Ive done most of the last year virtual so no segments there. Probably first internally where the issue prob stems from. Cancelled. The answer is yes, you can link your Garmin to your Apple Watch and use the Strava app on both devices. They added more sports (badminton, pickle ball, pilates etc) but didnt give us what we really needed; a way to filter them out of our feeds. I like their product. McMillan Running provides expert coaching, combining the latest in exercise science with proven training strategies. thats done often, e. g. when you sign up for Netflix they show different prices to gauge what people would be ok with to pay. Dollars would work out cheaper for me . 2019/2020 Eur23.49 And I fail to see how hiding your price from consumers is a good business practice. When that's done, your accounts will be linked. Seems they registered all of them, and Apple makes it possible to see all available ones under Subscription settings. I am beginner cyclist and recently bought an Edge 530. No price increase next renewal either still 47.99. Thanks for trying to make sense of nonsense. In New Zealand, my renewal for March 2023 (signed up in 2016) is showing as $NZ71.50 ($USD45), but a new subscription would be $NZ95.04 ($USD60). And now we are paying more for these subscriber features. In Amurka they count on that! This is 100% on purpose. I have the feeling that if it goes by "demand" I'll miss out on the best stuff. Anyone We get it. You can use Connect on the web to create segments - essentially courses of any distance - run. Cancelled my subscription per sep 23. I wonder why Strava opts to charge for subscriptions in local currencies? In our households case, for my account, Ill renew it. I did lot of research and here is my solution: b) I like the fitness and freshness feature to pace my training. Rate changes definitely trigger shopping behavior. The Garmin Forerunner 55 is the entry-level running watch in Garmins collection. They are still ghosting you? Not sure its worth the increased price, didnt like the current price. My eyes rolled into the back of my head when I saw corporate babble speak like we are consistently investing in the value of our subscription experience to deliver a best-in-class digital experience and Our priority is giving you a unique experience for a holistic view of your active lifestyle. 3. I guess the issue is about Data center storage since they have introduce Video Media. Strava likes to tote all the features they supposedly add, but tbh from a casual user perspective I hardly notice them and I just dont care. All it will take is the first wave of users sliding over to a free alternative platform, and the tsunami will follow. And even if there is some dubious justification for that, how can they justify that there a four different monthly euro prices, and four different euro yearly prices, but those four prices are not in line with each other for the same country of origin ie if I pay monthly in France I pay 2 more a month than Italy, but the same annually. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Sale of electronically supplied services Its super random. Select Find a Plan and use the options at the top to narrow options by sport. I have virtually no use for Segments. I subscribe for #1 Fitness & Freshness Graph. Wareable is reader-powered. Nice article. For analysis use TrainingPeaks or GoldenCheetah. Im based in the US and have paid them since 2016. OK, opened one. Thanks for the work in at least trying to decipher the madness! I think Zwift could easily justify it just dont go crazy. They no longer charge me so I dont care. Scroll down to the Strava app and make sure that it is set to While Using the App. Next, open the Strava app and go to the Settings gear icon in the top right corner. As a contrarian I cross my fingers for a huge increase, because I will definitely recalculate how much I save in each month, in each year and also in the remaining part of my life expectancy for not being a Strava subsriber. Theyre owned by Strava, so I must have a Strava account. Is there a 40-60 minute hill climb that youd love to tackle? Id much rather be able to filter my strata feed to weedle out short activities like warm ups and cool downs. Just *snip* and gone. My mistake, this reply should have been a reply to #20. Do you have a favorite power climb that youre eager to PR? This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. In the past 10 years, Strava has added countless new features including support for more than 40 sport types, Beacon, route recommendations, an online route builder tool, global and personal heatmaps, segment leaderboards and custom goals and progress. And mind you, if you think its published anywhere, its certainly not. Im curious as to whether Garmin abandoned that feature because of the greater popularity of Strava for segments, or was there some sort of arrangement between Garmin and Strava for Garmin to exit that space? Both of our accounts are actually billing to US credit cards (directly on Stravas site). Take your preparation to the next level with this training plan. I just checked my account and it says Euro 59.99 for next renewal in January 2024. Select Training & Planning from the navigation bar on the left. Seems everyone is jumping on the inflation bandwagon. My Strava new year offer is expiring on 10th March. Just checked my account, the new price, from 27 October, 2023. will be 59.99, (same as last year) yes, thats right it will be priced in EUROs, no idea why. 10 in Germany is nothing compared to eastern Europe. Companies have to pay employees more to stay competitive (especially for tech companies), and other infrastructure costs have also risen. And if Strava thinks Im paying double? Wow, this was an eye opener. bikeit! Garmin Forerunner 245 Music, GPS. We all have our this seems obvious thing we want changed, but practically speaking, companies cant change every thing every person asks for. I did read that Garmin Connect is social, and was puzzled. I cancelled Strava last night (January 13th) for a subscription that would end on January 15th in which I was going to be charged $11.99. After your first upload, Garmin will also sync your past 90 days of activity to Strava. New workouts appear as Private and are not visible to anyone. I cant find one thing in premium, not one thing Ill pay for, not even a dollar. Another bit to add to the mix- if you subscribe to Strava through an App Store. Looking at my old receipts I used to pay only 18 annually. My annual fee has been 39.99 since 2016 and have been told it will be renewed in July for the same price. And, I suppose itd make sense for me to switch my account to being a Netherlands-based person before Marchif only I could figure out how. But the real kicker? Select Link Other Services. Under Connect, select Garmin. You will be prompted to enter your Garmin login information. Your Garmin and Apple Watch will now be linked to your Strava account. 2) Open an incognito session This is a more advanced training plan for time-crunched cyclists who have built an aerobic base and want to maintain fitness over the indoor cycling season. link to jagz.app.link, I dont think this is the full story tbh. Looks like Strava is going with the Plane Ticket Pricing Model. JavaScript must be enabled in order to use this site. This seems to be the Strava way, where management seems to be severely lacking long-term vision every so often. The only price I found was Free trial 0.00, 5.00 /mo* after 60 days and the asterisk refers to * when billed annually. But I get your point; the prices seem somehow calculated based on Stravas perception what people want to pay. The only premium features I find valuable would be heatmaps and the route creator. Count me as one of the Roller Ski users! The information in this manual applies to both Furthermore, the watchs biometrics tracking is impressive; heart rate monitoring is especially effective. This is what I have always been paying. Heres an example e-mail of a price increase from $59 to $99, a 67% increase: The problem though? Foul play! Then, one more poke, this time getting: Thats our full press statement. Michael Joseph, Strava PR Lead, Wait, are you kidding? Open the Garmin Connect app on your iPhone and go to the Devices menu. Its says my renewal in December will be 54.99 !!! I worked with a holiday company that charged more for Mac users on the assumption they would pay that was stopped. Google sheets simple and free. If you have a Garmin you should use it alongside any other platform you use. Can provide proof if you want. No other company out there has such a bit user base and therefore anything that compares. (Both my connections havent posted an activity on Connect in quite a while, so its just me in my News Feed at the moment.) And then each time I dug further, the rabbit hole deepened, and the absurdity of it expanded. To avoid this issue, ensure that your routes are properly plotted and that you are following the correct path. > principle of non-discrimination. If you have a Garmin device (or even if you dont I believe there is nothing stopping you from creating a Garmin account with 0 Garmin devices) you can use Garmin Connect Web which has Garmint Popularity Routing. How many are doing what different TrainerRoad price levels? Im US based, currently at $59.99 scheduled to renew at $59.99 July 30th. Any ride I did over 30 miles since they released this feature was a Strava suggested route. Your annual membership will automatically renew on December 6, 2023 for $59.99 Subscriber since February 19, 2022, Your annual membership will automatically renew on February 19, 2023 for $59.99 Last year moved to New Zealand. Stravas integration with the Apple Watch has now been streamlined. Whats that got to do with anything?! Press J to jump to the feed. As far as the data is concerned, I prefer the data and analysis tools from GC to what is offered by Strava, but I also track swimming activities and I find that Strava just lacks completely in that regard. Is that really worth 60us$ / year. How does this translate to my Garmin? Has anyone also noticed that the price differs from device to device? To a degree. Alright, not too bad. Another possibility is that your Garmin device isnt compatible with Strava. I found there is "Courses" equivalent to route and "Segments" to create and track segment. So, sorry. Its not the other way around, its considerably more expensive in Canada in raw dollar terms. The adventure-loving women of today. This was the first year I paid for the annual, purely out of respecting them for a solid product and offering. The accuracy of satellite positioning was demonstrated to be extremely high in our tests. KOMs have been ruined by e bikes, and before that by local semi pro who you were never going to catch. Asked via Twitter and an email about why there was a difference, no response. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. I got an end of year email signed by the CEO last week as part of their marketing, similar email on price hike would have been so they needed. Jan 8 rolled around, and it renewed for $59.99 . However, there are three methods you can use to export workout data from Strava to TrainingPeaks. Go to connect.garmin.com. Remembering that Strava bills UK users in local British Pounds, but ultimately Strava is based in the US and the vast majority of their employees/costs are in the US. By Syncing your activities with the Strava app, you can keep a record of your progress on your phone. Ensure that Garmin Connect and the Strava apps are installed on your smartphone. Print/PDF map. Garmin Edge 530, Performance GPS. Tech includes devices or software integrations that help me analyze my efforts. I got this baffling response from their customer support: Thank you for reaching out to us. link to eur-lex.europa.eu. Wearable & Smartwatch Accessories Cycling Accessories Indoor Training Accessories Apps. The training system includes an impressive number of training tools, in addition to accurate GPS and heart rate monitoring. Im not kidding. If youre going for a long ride or run that lasts more than four hours, you can disable the heart rate monitor. It seems like it is totally random indeed, the membership is what we Meg spins on those lotto ball machines on the day! I think this may be a move by Strava to stop payment abuse. I dont know how many would pony up their money after being being forced to do so after Stravas free service is all but ended or made useless. I just cant see why Ill continue paying, the adavatntages are minimal but worse still the lack of transparency is inexcusable and despicable. Between the accountants and the software people every company can certainly forecast pricing with a high rate of detail & churn. A few stray observations: Essential reading: Ultimate guide to Strava. The annual cost if I subscribe via Google Play is 49.99, but if I subscribe via their website its 79.99. Select the Strava app and tap on the Install button. This smells like the result of market research. Its such a mess that everyone is different and Strava continues to play the silent game. Get free adaptive training plans from Garmin coach, or create your own custom workouts on our Garmin connect online fitness community. Its also perhaps unsurprisingly feeling like Dropped again? when I have to face the fact that Im not a competitor, Im just an old man riding a trainer (like I stole it). Foundational even. Having different prices for the same service within EU is prohibited under EU competition law in some cases. they did not honor the full length of the subscription period despite charging you for it. As a Brit, none of that even affects me personally, but having given them the benefit of the doubt the last time they messed with the payment structure (pay per feature), Im really starting to think that just not paying at all is the best way to solve the issue. The euro and the European market are big enablers for that. Im UK based on the Annual subscription. I went into my subscriptions on my iPhone, and I saw the old monthly price too. Might as well cancel it now and save me the aggro. And, of course, both have segments, something Im completely uninterested in. To enable sync, users must link their accounts to Garmin Connect via the app or via the web on a personal computer. Their core problem is lack of innovation and developing new innovative features. I decided to take the website NZ$ option. What does it offer to justify paying subscription? With it route planning works superb and sync with devices work excellent. Price increase? 2021 Eur59.99 Oef, bad luck for Strava that you did such a thorough research article. I had forgotten about free mode, but I wonder how long that will last. I may be out of my limb here. A net loss of $62/year. There is no automatic way. Disclaimer: I am not a big fan of social network and don't like to post my workouts publicly on Instagram, Facebook or Strava. Youll have access to your premium until it expires, but it might get their attention if a bunch of people cancel, even if you intend to renew. This, all up, will be $79.99 per year. If they have an operating presence in Australia then Australian law says they must charge in Australian dollars, and the offer to treat must include all fees, duties and taxes in the headline price. none of it makes much sense other than the fact that inflation is different in different countries not sure how they can argue that Spain should pay 7.99/49.99 but Italy pays 7.99/59.00! roller ski? Brilliantly written. The only premium feature I actually routinely use is creating routes. I cant make it more serious than that. If however, you sift long enough through Reddit threads, you eventually find a thread that talks about a support article Strava posted (or updated) on Saturday that attempts to outline what they are doing, price-wise. Thanks to the current currency markets, that equates to around 99 GBP so double the UK rate which presumably means they are pegging it to the USD and placing it well outside the affordable/justifiable range for people. Hard 3.7 (61) Twin Peaks Wilderness. Do you have a favorite 20-40 minute hill climb that youre eager to PR? Our apologies for any confusion. With Carl J and CowRobs comments, I returned to my account and found an affirmative statement next to the Billing entry, Your next bill will be on December 6, 2023, for $59.99, paid with a credit card ending in XXXX.. That would explain the bs communication as well. Im based in the UK, my subscription is, and has alway been, 47.99gbp and is due to renew on February 19 for the same price. SMDH at how some companies communicate. I owe Strava a big thanks! I like to compare yoy mileage and 17% variable seems like a big difference. The club Im in also has scheduling for outside rides which made it easier to do club rides, plus, in Strava you can include riders you rode with in a ride you did (although I have never done that). 10 strava watch: Editor Recommended. or, even more sophisticated Im so tickled that my velonews subscription that I paid for 12 issues now only gives me 6 and the latest issue has a bicycle on page 11, 37, 40, and two of those pictures are in advertisements. Im assuming I will get billed the higher amount, but seems not updated everywhere. It promotes having the same price in different countries. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Im not paying for Strava premium if I can get the same data for free . I am thankful for Rays time, research, and sharing. Training plans are included with a subscription to Strava. Might need to look into that. Although the change in leadership will not be felt by everyone, given that millions of Apple Watch owners have signed up for it, it will have immediate and tangible benefits. He is a journalist and a blogger, who I trust. When I was trying to decide whether to spring for the paid service (after 10-11 years of free), I lost track of the number of paying friends who replied I have no idea when I asked what they like about the paid version. Similarly, we wear the watch while taking indoor cycling classes, as well as a chest strap heart rate monitor. WURL: Wasatch Ultimate Ridge Linkup. So Ive heard that about low priced products actually selling your (the purchasers) data. The advanced workout feature in Garmin Connect allows for the planning and creation of personalized fitness exercises that conform to specific training goals or targets. Maybe I cant create segments for older rides? Strava is a social media platform. Also risen bikes, and I saw the old monthly price too business. 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