(esskeepee) sathishkumar.p (THUREN KULAM).DEVI MOBILES, COIMBATORE, daily write something.. make it like an website..i found so many relatives decided to vote for our partyprakashpollachi. Why do they need a party today? Dear Eagle, we all can positively build the region. I assume you work in Bangalore/Chennai but your native is Erode/Kovai. yes,, it has been added in pudhucherry list, not yet in Tamil nadu. The cowherd rearing shifting farmers achieved a sustained state and organised themselves as Vellalars or landlords. Caste: Kongu Vellala Gounder/Kannan : Annual Income: Rs.400000 : Register Free to contact her : Name: P.sindhu manjari [GK6768] View Full Profile . Ved - Samved. "This government has neglected the western region, where the Kongu Vellala Gounders are a dominant force. Please abide by it. Hi! The secrets for such a developed region go back to the Gounder caste which mostly go unresearched partly due to the heavy stench of ideological biases of contemporary Tamil historians and partly due to the jealousy and the resulting fear of the caste itself. The word Gounder is mainly used as a caste name by the Kongu Vellalars, a Kshatriya clan in Tamil Nadu, who are also called the Vellala Gounders. If this is a notable subject then it will have been covered in the English language anyway, especially since English is one of the languages of India. 1. Respect other parties7. Criminal offense. 7.Best ramasamy-Best groups: "Best" S. Ramasamy is a politician and entrepreneur from the Indian state of Tamil Nadu. In that trend you should have got more votes in the Nilgris as it is in the strong Gounder belt of Kovai. With the Chief Ministers announcement, the State would recommend the regrouping of caste names into one. Thuluva Vellala, Archakari Vellala, Isaivellalar, Kongu Vellalar (about 15 gounder castes), Sozhia Vellalar (four sub castes), Virakodi Vellala, Podikara Vellalar, Nangudi Vellalar and Kuga Vellalar. It had no television channel of its own, no experienced politician and no alliance partner. : a member of a caste of Tamil moneylenders or merchants in southern India, Ceylon, Burma, Malaya, Fiji, and South Africa. I have no objection to a list provided that the contents abide by the Wikipedia policies and, in particular, those for verification of information using reliable sources. While as a nation India condemns racism, it maintains a stoic silence on its internal racism - untouchability.In this Internet age - where boundaries are blurred and where nations do not exist - I feel mentioning about these backward practices is itself meaningless, leave alone discussing it - ironically in an Internet tool !!!! Some scholars saw the KMK's presence in the Kongu belt as contributing to the ADMK's victory in those constitutencies. I think if that is the aim of KNMP, then it will be an alternative to others. The changes such as inclusion, exclusion and modification in the names of castes listed under SC/ST can only be carried out with approval of the State. [4], There are number of derivations for the title. they knows life and human's feelings better than u. mr. velumani, wat do you mean by valuable comments? Identification. On the day of the wedding, the groom is shaven, and a karumaikkarari pours water on his head. Hindu, Kongu Vellala Gounder. KNMP is forcing its own community to display flags [remembers me of hitler's germany] and their supporters observe and watch others. This is nothing but exploitation of bright minds like you. ., , , , , , , , , -, , , , , -, , -- . What have these educationists and industrialists done other than giving fat donations to our political parties from which they have alone benefitted.Walk through the region, you will see people and their suffering.. Why do you talk about gounders, nadars, chettiars etc and go back to the history of humiliation and inhuman practices?why do our farmers sell farm land to real estate owners? 2nd Century CE. Untouchability/apartheid/racism are all manifestations of the same problem. Have you not felt proud when you reply to the answer to the question What caste you belong?If our caste is like what you blamed, our caste will not have this much of reputation still.So, don't quarrel all Kongu Vellalans among each other - a bad quality among our Kongu Lions.Be a very good Kongu Vellala Gounder for the sake of our ancestors. Imagine while travelling back home you are thrown out from your railway compartment by a Brahmin/North Indian - saying your caste/colour as the reason .You should be thankful for leaders like Gandhiji, EVR that such a situation does not exist in India today ..Its easy to criticize them - but it is difficult to understand what they said, leave alone following it. I did say that the Dalits face more problem from OBC/BC's rather than Brahmins. They made money, they buuilt ashrams and hospitals, liquor industries and institutions and made money.. what about the lower and middle class? hi allevery one said only good things abt this communitybut from my point of viewgounders love their land more than peopleand gounder people are also fsmous for untouchability(treating lower caste people very badly)and no one speaks abt it. So dont put caste in front of your political ambitions. I cannot be so !! If they are unable to tell their kulam / koottam definitely they are not Kongu Vellala.So you can try that method to find out whether they have any Kulam / Koottam. I BELONGS TO PAYIRAN KULAMMY KULA DEIVA KOIL IS IN PARANCHERVAZHI , KANGEYAM(TIRUPUR DISTRICT).. because some other group started like this in Namakkal. The Commission may also consider holding public hearings before arriving at a conclusion on the recommendation. This kind of bad kind of people are always available in every caste. Not all brahmins are castist, we must unite all castes and engineer a good social development where everyone becomes proud of his/her birth and origin. These Nadus are arranged in 4 groups of 6 villages each headquartered at Palayakottai, Kangayam, Pudur and Kadayur. after winning the elections with congress votes, he is asking for ministerial berths to his family members only expose such a party among people!Dear Eagle, be sensible.. there is no need to mock at anybody. There are only two ministers now with dummy portfolios. The punishment was lifted if the widow consented to the man leaving her, the man provided the widow with sufficient means to live herself, and the man providing a feast to his family by killing a black sheep. Line 1 Korrantai (I*) lava (n) They also started questioning the authority of Vellalars. Dedicated jog keep it upThis is very useful blog to know our community, culture. Someone like thooran should write the history of our caste(unbiased!). The total votes is just about 5 lakhs. History The history of the Kongu Vellala Gounder caste is one of the most obscure along with the history of the Kongunadu region itself. Prakash (Net),Go through my earlier postings - I clearly said you will retain deposit in 4 constituencies and lose deposit in the remaining .The votes got by KNMP :Kovai - 1,28,070Erode - 1,06,604Pollachi - 1,03,004Thirupur - 95,299Namakkal - 52,433Nilgris - 32,779Kallakurichi - 17818Dharmapuri - 15333Karur - 14259Krishnagiri - 4044Dindugal - 6411Salem - 3642Thaniyarasu in Namakkal - 24230You do whatever analysis you want. Comment. Dear Right (Crooked) Angle,Dont spew venom on individuals who passed away and who have some social standing .and especially on their personal life see what they have achieved socially and for the community .You dont know for what they stood and what they achieved .. Untouchability is one of the besetting crimes of the Hinduism and EVR's role in eradicating the same is indisputable Read history to understand that You are comfortable because of the hardwork of the people like him If not for him, Anna and Kalaignar we all (meaning all non-brahmins) will be doing the menial jobs and the Brahmins will be ruling the roost Remember you people (KVG's) are also forward castes and its only Kalignar who gave you the BC status Following a caste is ok as long is it is personal and not affecting others .My grouse against KVG's (a section of the KVG's) is their attitude towards Dalits and the lower castesSee the discussions had with few of your people during March-April timeframe .Being aggressive wont help buddy ..be considerate and above all respect others ..Try to be a real Right angle .. ;-)Eagle. It is also widely believed that the Saiva Vellalas of Madras State who are stricter vegetarians than even Tamil Brahmins, were Jainas. The Gounders are an influential community in Coimbatore, Nilgiris, Karur, Namakkal, Erode, Tiruppur, Salem, Krishnagiri, Dharmapuri and Dindigul districts. If they have to obey the others, why didn't they tell earlier? For reprint rights: Times Syndication Service. We need a voice. They will not allow, becoz its reserved only for those elite..But in traditional rural villages, every household will offer food, whenever a dalit comes.. that is the spirit of villages.. Not only dalit.. any one can survive even without money.. but in cities, without money, they cannot live even for one day../** With all its limitations and imperfections, market economy and the urban life is the solace for the underprivileged - at least it gives them an opportunity to be on their own - and they try to understand the word known as FREEDOM. Thank you for informing me the good news of fixing the marriage of your sister. Individual koottams also have distinct flags in addition to this flag. How is the caste system related . Believe me I've seen the Gounders behaviour in the region of Salem,Namakkal,Erode and Dharmapuri belts ..Their attitude towards the Dalits is one of the worst I've seen among the upper caste Hindus .There will be denials .You can even say that you cannot generalise .But that is the harsh truth .If they do real introspection, if they really want to change and do something different let the GOOD ONES among the Gounders change the behaviours of the fellow Gounders that itself will be a bigger service to the society Kongu region doesnt need a KNMP to improve itself .it can take care of its own .Eagle, i am porulur poosan,i proved to kongu vellala gounder,i am very proved of our history ,please realese as book i am software eng,i am form the kongu vellar gounder community,and iam from kongu nadu ,my kottam is poosan,my kulladeyvam is mangaiamman porulur,in dindigul district in ottanchatram taulk,we were in palani. Dear Kongu Tamil Indians,it is a good showing by kongu parties in the elections. The history of the Kongu Vellala Gounder caste is one of the most obscure along with the history of the Kongunadu region itself. [22], sfnp error: no target: CITEREFV._Manickam (, sfnp error: no target: CITEREFSharad_Chari (, sfnp error: no target: CITEREFGunasekaran (, "Purana of Kongunadu's conventional farming", "NREGA and the Return of Identity Politics in Western Tamil Nadu, India", Gounder consolidation could pose headache to major parties Times Of India, "The Castes and Tribes of Southern India", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kongu_Vellalar&oldid=1125088804, Short description is different from Wikidata, Wikipedia indefinitely semi-protected pages, All Wikipedia articles written in Indian English, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 2 December 2022, at 03:43. Caste/Community Resolution No. To establish supremacy by divide and rule. Let us give a wide publicity among our Kongu Lions and their families. Our community 'Arasial Eluchi Manadu' was not done unitedly, i think. We can be 100% sure. [37] The Chalukya kings were also known by the title Velpularasar, that is kings of Vel country (pulam means region or country in Tamil) and as Velkulattarasar, that is kings of the Vel clan (kulam), in epigraphs and in the old Tamil lexicon Divakaram. [24] The Ay Vels were one such Velir group that ruled the territory in and around Venad during the Sangam period. /** This is the same world which has both Internet and Taliban together**/what's relation b/w taliban & internet.. totally unrelated comparison..The taliban are using internet more than us../** To keep it simple - I dont want to argue on the Muslims angle and Europeans angle ..and how good or bad we were in the past .**/If you dont want to argue on muslim angle or european angle, the better leave everything else also..As i said earlier, the issue has to be discussed only on relative comparison, and NOT in isolation../** The current reality is -1.Dalits are dominated by OBC/MBC's2. Most initially identified with their clan names and their chiefs with the Gounder title, but eventually coalesced into a single group called Kongu Vellalar Gounder. To show one race is superior to other. [65], During the British colonial period, the Vellalars who were land owners and tillers of the soil and held offices pertaining to land, were ranked as Sat-Sudra in the 1901 census; with the Government of Madras recognising that the 4-fold division (four varnas) did not describe the South Indian, or Dravidian, society adequately. 7/98/SCSTDD Dated. GOOD WORK. lot of the gounders dint vote for kmp.no one care about this only a little disappointment..but we all stay with kmp..other parties may have won..but even if got 1 lakh vote it is earned within 3 months..and the party symbol was got only 20 days before.THANKS FOR ALL THOSE WHO VOTE FOR KMP..keep staying in kmp no one can win without our 1 lakh vote. As per article 17 of Indian Constitution - "Untouchability" is abolished and its practice in any form is forbidden ..In addition to this there is "Protection of civil rights act 1955" which details the actions or activities which are prohibited under rule of law. The community plays a significant role in the political and economic life of the Kongu Nadu region. Don't be only Gounder-centric. [2][3][4] Interestingly the Gandadikara Vokkaligas of the neighbouring parts of Karnataka also claim origin from the banks of the Ganges. nammaal mudiyathathu ethuvum illai.. nammai vendravarkalum yaarum illai. He can go and see in all villages. Prof. aru pon natarajan pollachiya? To show one race is superior to other. is guaranteed but not to exploit others. BJP, DMDK nowhere in the scene Well for KNMP .ha ha .. wait till 16 to hear on the excuses .Eagle. The caste title, Vellalar, refers to people who performed agriculture as profession traditionally. Worldwide, movements are there to reduce racism. As per moral and ethical standards. [62][63], The Smarta Brahmins have always competed with the Tamil Shaivites for religious influence in the temples in the Kaveri delta region. Palani Anda Nadu Kongan venman (talk) 14:36, 30 April 2011 (UTC), I am beginning to wonder whether this is even a notable subject. GOUNDER.IN Kongu Vellala Gounders Community Portal. The Tolkappiyam does not contain the term Vellalar but refers to a group of people called Velaan Maanthar who apart from practising agriculture had the right to carry weapons and wear garlands when they were involved in affairs of the state. WITHOUT THEHELP OF POLITICAL PARTY, WE CANNOTGET THINGS DONE EASILY. For the first time, the castes listed under SC are to be assigned the title Vellalar. Innum yethanai naalaikku manushane manushana nasukkura indha kodumai thodarum? I amazed to know the history of our caste.. Brahmins practice soft bias/racism against other communities. A great compilation.You have mentioned that KVK(Kongu Vellala Kavunder) caste population is declining. They are also known by names such as "Bupaalan", Gangavamsam, Kudiyaanavar and Vivasaayi, and use the title Gounder as a caste appellation in their personal names. watch out for MLA election also in most of the constituency there are even 90 percent gounders living.it seems atleast 15 seats is going to be won by knmp with ease.already dmk is positioned third.watch out for religion party mmk spliting dmk votes and making way for knmp candidate to win in pollachi and in coimbatore. Rajavelu, S Title used by certain communities in Tamil Nadu, "Gounder consolidation could pose headache to major parties", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gounder&oldid=1134019758, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 16 January 2023, at 16:42. it is ridiculous.Without asking the house owners KNMP pasted stickers on houses, put up flags and wrote on the walls.. like others! I am from sengguni koolam. Kongu Vellala, Gounder including Vellala Gounder, Nattu Gounder, Pala Gounder, Poosari Gounder and Pala Vellala Gounder: 82. Ungala yellam 'Marunagada' nu solluradhu sevidan kadhula sangu oodhura kadhai dhanKaalam marriturukku daUnga attitude ku yellam mudivu romba dhoorathula illa! It should be reformed so that it is not used for personal vengeance..Apart from reservation and pcr acts there are other things which has to be attended in kongu area..Can you list the development schemes undertaken by the government for the past 40 years in the kongu region.. 8/98/SCSTDD Dated. It is very nice to know the history of kongu vellala gounder community.This information is very useful for future generation.Thanks.venkateswaran,vellakovil.kangeyam taluk.Erode district. Commenting always against KVs make a doubt.Declare, if you wish, that you are not belonging to Kongu Vellala. i don't know whether it has already been done. Join FREE! There should not be any discrimination based on sex, religion, caste etc. To achieve a best position running behind de caste and exercising suppremacy wont help. "Plus we should encourage newly weds to have MORE CHILDREN for another 20 years"Dai..Kongu Nadu India-la dhane irukku?Population Explosion-la naade thavichu kittu irukkum bodhu yedho Australia la irukka madhiri oru mattamana staement..Innum vara pora genreation-sukkum unga 'jathi veri'-ngra vishatha oota poreengala?Mmmurupatturum! Without going into detail, it must suffice to say that in Sripuram the Vellalas proper are segmented into three endogamous units: Chozhia Vellala, Karaikathu Vellala, and Kodikkal Vellala. Learn.best wishesaru pon natarajan varanasi [i work in UP], Aru Pon Natarajan,You are being polite and considerate to KVG's. Happy to know this. this blog has been started for the kvg people to know the history of our people and the rich cultural heritage we possess..we are not proud of the name kongu vellala gounder but its heritage and tradition..even most of the other community people lost their tradition we still preserve it..due to the negligence of the government the kongu region itself is becoming unfit for living..our main occupation agriculture itself is dimnishing and our young people are going away from our homeland(kongunadu) to earn a bread..if this continues surely surely our people will be attracted by other cultures and our culture will diminish..a man can be best preserved in his culture when he has good living environment..so the develoment of kongu region is very important and we believe firmly that our knmp will try to bring change in our area..we have full confidence with kongu nadu munnetra peravai and you cannot shake it with your so called information based on statistics ..so mr sivakumar(eagle) please dont continue your anti kvg statements and anti knmp campaign in this blog..for fellow kvg ians please ignore mr sivakumar's comments and let him comment alone in the blog.. we will try to improve our culture by showing our younger generation that we have a very rich tradition and we are not based on caste ism and untouchability. ?..dont say pmk lost .it lost only bcz it went to admk other wise it would have won with dmk.karur got good gounder population but still polled less then nilgiris.how to create a new party to take on dmk and admk?.this is the only way..instead of participating from the local body election to mp seat.unfortunately kmp directly and boldy participated in mp seat.and no matter whther u win or lose.dmk say kmp spolied their victory in 4 seats. ONTRU KOODI PESUVOM ATHARKANA IDAM MATRUM NERAMFEB 15'2009KARUMATHAMPATTY (KOVAI -SALEM ROAD,NH47). Vellala. On Untouchability - Untouchability is a crime. This cultural combination of the heroic traditions and megalithic burials greatly influenced Kongu Nadu's culture. It is a family. The term(Vellalar) extends beyond notions of caste and seems rather to be a generic term for farming groups dispersed over space. Which caste comes under MBC in Tamilnadu? Modavanthi Gounders i think it is something different from Kongu Vellalar community. Terms of Use | But dont become prey to these kind of cheap caste politics. To show superiority. Since in the Kongu Manadu they are all proclaiming they are Kongu Vellalar Gounder which for me it's very hard to digest. By its manifesto it has shown that it is for the development of the region. (including Vellala Gounder, NattuGounder, Narambukatti Gounder, Tirumudi Vellalar, Thondu Vellalar, Pala . i wish kongu nadu in feature it should be in the tamil politic and national politics.we need to have our kongu nadu people stateral minister,for not only benifit for our community and also for the whole benifit of kongu nadu region i.e western tamil nadu ,people from other community also vote for the devolpment for kongu nadu ,even without our goverment full help we are all kongu nadu people come this far(2/3 economy to tamil nadu from region)even with help goverment , so we the people can reach great height &more more prosporus life vote for KNMP .if they come we can attain full devolpment in this region(i.e front runner in well devolped region in india,in that time we were example to others(rest of india even for world)in devolpment )we can we will in the state election to win atleast 50 assembly seatswe can we willuse this base vote (i.e6.5 lacs)make more people aware of the party in our regionstart kongu tv to make awarenessif we had shown feb 15 meeting in tv we had win atleast 4-5 seatsmake awareness avilable to all people as quick as possible before state election ,we need change our defect to massive win in state election so everbody need to work hard take to more peoplewe were baby in the mp election,we need show our kongu region strenthWE CAN WE WILL, Kavi,You are young, you are a software professional, you live in the Internet era where even national boundaries are meaningless - why do you want spend time on caste based politics ?? 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